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“In psychology, I’m starting to get the weary feeling that everything gives you mental illness,” quips Williams Saletan in the May 7th Slate on Human Nature. Saletan references the recent study which found that parents who have psychiatric disorders are doubly at risk to have an autistic child (while also citing another study according to which “adoption can double a child’s risk of disruptive behavior disorder“). Have to say, I’m starting to feel that everything can give a person autism.
What hasn’t been cited as a cause of autism?
I just seen a blog that talked about a chelation treament to remove the heavy metals from the bodies of childern with autism, then the question is where did the heavy metals come from and what metals are they talking about. How much heavy metal could you get from appox. 12 shots. So if any one has a idea it would be nice to hear about it.
Larry; That site was intesting did you read all of sub titles. I liked the one titled unsure about fluoride. On this site they say there are three kinds of fluorides. lookfor diierence between natural fluoride and artifical fluoride. Try http://www.fannz.org.nz/faq.php. You will see there is sodium and calcium then the kind that they put in are water. May that the CDC say not give a new born fluoridated in any form tell they get there first because the treeth will come in with brown spots.
Kristina I was not thinking about these days I was thinking more about 12 or 13 years ago when I belive most of the damage is done in the first 21 months. First the Lead and arsenic then the thimerosal before it was taken out and last you have the shots [3 or 4 in one package]. How do they know for sure that two may not cancel one of the others out. Because a lot of people say that they got vaccinate but they got one of the things that the vaccine was for. So would it to much to ask to split them up.
Just to clarify: I’m not much of a rice eater these days.
To Donald:
Flouride occurs naturally in water. In some areas, that flouride is excessive. That was how scientists were able to determine in the first place that there was a correlation between flouride and protection against tooth decay.
http://www.health.qld.gov.au/fluoride/fluoride_qld_aus.asp
Children who live in those areas where there is *excessive* naturally-occurring flouride in the water are doing fine, except that they have brown discoloration on their teeth. Don’t you think someone would have noticed if all autistic children had brown spots on their teeth???
What’s more; artificial flouridation of public water supplies is never concentrated enough to even cause brown spots. It sure wouldn’t cause autism.
If you go to the water co, ask them at ppm the add FLUORIDE[LEAD and ASRSENIC] and then ask how many pounds that would be in dry weight and what % would be LEAD and what %will be ARSENIC so when you make instant when you will be eating the LEAD and ARSENIC because all the water is now in a solid form.
[QUOTE]I’m just amazed that Stevie Wonder has now been mentioned on this blog……… Maybe rock ‘n’ roll cause autism…….[/QUOTE]
According to the Scottish Sensory Centre, 31 percent of all their blind children are autistic. There is something about blindness that makes a child predisposed to autism. The big question is this: Is the subsequent autism neurological or psychological.
I suppose it’s neurological; but that isn’t saying much. After all, everything that happens in the brain is ultimately neurological.
I know that I wii tick off a lot of pepole because they are not going to hear. Here goes! This will be for you Ms Chew as you said that your grandfather was china so I that a staple for you diet is rice. When you fix rice you put the fluoriated water in the pan and when you get done there is no water so were did that the water with FLUORIDE [lead and arsenat] go. It went into the rice whitch now you are going to eat. You know what they said in the 80″s about the little girl that was eating the paint chips from the window frame,and what that did to her brain. The same thing happens when you make instant mash potatos. So you might wounder where the toxin comes from that my effect child before and after is born. Iam sure you seem where the CDC said that a new born should not be given fluoridated water for appt. for the first year,whitch tells me that they know some thing and what it does to the infant be cause of the FLUORIDE[lead and arsenate]in the water. We all drink the water to.Back when they started the in the 40 “s the doseage was .9 ppn to 1.2 ppm but to day that can be up to 4 ppm. Back then and for the next 50 years ther were only abou 50 pws that added this to the water but in 93 the U.S.P.A. said that if you needed to put in the water and I guess that the CDC it was ok to do so. This is same people said it was ok to bundle 3 or 4 vaccines together as one shot. To see if this is a problem and has any thing to do with Autism. Would that be to much to ask for but I don”t see it happeing.
Everybody keeps talking about biomarkers when some though should be givened to the envionment around the persons with autism to see if it could change the biomarkers when a differnt amount of some thing in the diet of the mother.
@Paula,
You wrote ” Choosing to have and raise children by whatever means, IS a risk.”
Yes and one we’ve gladly taken up—-
I think that H6 said that we should think out side of the box.After reading the comments everyone seams to stays inside the box.Some one said that this was not a big thing. He should read http://www.just-think-it.com.
A-NOS: “Adopted-Not Otherwise Specified”
I have a high-energy adopted son. Now I suppose every time he knocks something over in his enthusiasm or skips happily and wildly across a room when all the other children are being more “mild,” it’s going to be part of a “disruptive behavior disorder.” I’m not buying it.
“Despite the popularity of adoption, there is a persistent concern that adopted children may be at heightened risk for mental health or adjustment problems.”
The wording “Despite the popularity” strikes me as odd. It’s almost like the writer is saying that people are taking a huge risk by adopting, more of a risk than people take in having biological children. Choosing to have and raise children by whatever means, IS a risk. All the research in the world is not going to prevent that element of risk. And, who has the “persistent concern”? Researchers? Educators? Teachers? Social workers? Not me. I am accepting my child for who he is and doing my best to make sure he has what he needs emotionally as well as in every other area. I don’t spend a lot of time reading material that studies my child looking for differences between him and the non-adopted population.
“This excess of clinically meaningful behavioral problems in adopted adolescents has significance for researchers who examine the effect adoption has on individual functioning, for adoption agencies and their workers who counsel and advise members of the adoption triad and for physicians who are dealing with an overrepresentation of adoptees in their clinical practices.”
It doesn’t mention the significance for adoptees or their parents who are going to be under even more pressure to make sure their adopted kid doesn’t turn into a “behavior problem.” (And of course, it doesn’t mention a thing about the birth parents, who, at least for me, while not part of a study like this, should be taken into consideration any time any part of the adoption triad is studied.)
Here is a merry example of the blind leading the blind. Three blind autism researchers!
https://profreg.medscape.com/px/getlogin.do?urlCache=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5tZWRzY2FwZS5jb20vdmlld2FydGljbGUvNTc0MTg2P3NyYz1tcG5ld3Mmc3Bvbj0xMiZ1YWM9NzU1NzhGVA==
“Medscape Medical News 2008. (c) 2008 Medscape May 8, 2008 (Washington, DC) — Changes in behavior and brain circumference appear around 12 months of age in infants later diagnosed with autism, converging research suggests. Findings from different lines of study suggest that autistic behavior may have its onset in the latter part of the first year of life, at the time that brain overgrowth (enlarged brain volume) seems to occur in autism, said Joseph Piven, MD, from the University of North Carolina, in Chapel Hill, at a press conference about psychiatric risk and the developing brain given at the American Psychiatric Association 61st Annual Meeting…”
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Apparently none of them bothered to read to Dr. Chew’s blog, or they would have met Kassiane who presumably would have reamed each of them a spare.
Be that as it may, there really is a statistical correlation between large heads and autism. There is also a disturbing discovery that anxiety causes the release of brain-damaging toxins in infancy. For those who don’t know it; the result of brain damage in early infancy is ALWAYS overgrowth of neurons.
Am I the only one who gets aggravated by deliberate blindness?
@larry,
And who else beside the experts are having trouble with “external reality eye contact”……
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Everybody except the psychoanalysts–including Stanley Greenspan.
I know you read a lot about autism, so please provide evidence that autism is not a psychological disorder. Why is it listed in the DSM for mental disorders? Do you know of any neurological tests for autism? Do you know of any genetic tests for it? Do you know of any chemistry peculiar to autism?
I would really appreciate an argument from you rather than getting scolded for political incorrectness. I swear, if you give me evidence I will change my mind and be an advocate for neurological or biochemical research in regard to autism.
In the meantime, I will be happy to provide evidence in support of my own position and assume you are just as ready as I am to change your mind in light of evidence.
I have a ton of evidence. My group is not very popular lately, but the links page and the files are full of evidence. Check it out. I, like you, love to collect studies and research articles.
‘fact’ vs. ‘opinion’ vocabulary usage cleanup on aisle five…
we can do ‘hypothesis’ vs. ‘theory’ vs. ‘law’ while we’re at it
Vaccines are causing Autism that is a fact!!!
Could we just call a ban on the use of LOL in general? Bleh.
Okay, I call BS on this.
“I’m here to save lives and prevent autism, not ridicule those who are pro-vaccine.”
And from earlier up in the thread….
“I see the pro-vaccine people as smokers puffing away to the bitter end, forever in denial, forever trying to justify their decision to smoke, forever ignorantly in bliss.”
I dunno, that’s sounds like ridicule to me.
“I could post all day on anti-vaccine blogs but that wouldn’t be much fun.”
That’s why most of your commentary that you’ve posted here on this site would put you in the category of a typical Internet Troll.
@larry,
And who else beside the experts are having trouble with “external reality eye contact”……
Reye’s syndrome is associated with aspirin, not acetaminophen; this is one reason the use of acetaminophen and ibuprofen expanded (although ibuprofen has the advantage on anti-inflammatory properties), why children under 16 are not given aspirin, and why we don’t see those little baby orange aspirins around anymore.